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	<title>Comments on: Hard lessons in social media</title>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://psnetwork.org.nz/blog/2007/01/26/hard-lessons-in-social-media/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, David. Engagement provides benefits to both parties that far outweigh the (inevitable) growing pains experienced by agencies as they come to terms with these media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, David. Engagement provides benefits to both parties that far outweigh the (inevitable) growing pains experienced by agencies as they come to terms with these media.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hume</title>
		<link>http://psnetwork.org.nz/blog/2007/01/26/hard-lessons-in-social-media/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really agree.  If agencies can work out ways of understanding what frustrates people most about dealing with them, then they can take steps (where possible and practical) to relieve those frustrations with better systems. In fact, they may even find they have a ready group who's willing to help co-design the new system to make sure it works well for them and others in similar situations.

Happily, this has the bonus effect of separating members of the public that just want to criticize from those who are prepared to do something so that others don't have to go through the same, difficult, experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really agree.  If agencies can work out ways of understanding what frustrates people most about dealing with them, then they can take steps (where possible and practical) to relieve those frustrations with better systems. In fact, they may even find they have a ready group who&#8217;s willing to help co-design the new system to make sure it works well for them and others in similar situations.</p>
<p>Happily, this has the bonus effect of separating members of the public that just want to criticize from those who are prepared to do something so that others don&#8217;t have to go through the same, difficult, experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Che Tibby</title>
		<link>http://psnetwork.org.nz/blog/2007/01/26/hard-lessons-in-social-media/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Che Tibby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed, there's also the fact that this is a new medium to find out what people think. spending valuable R&#38;E money will likely turn up exactly the same result, i.e. "some people are frustrated with CYFS and need to get it off their chest".

just because this medium is unregulated (and possibly slightly unhinged in this instance), it doesn't mean it's not something we need take cognizance of. in fact, the unregulated medium means we get to see what the man in the street thinks without the filters (or blinkers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed, there&#8217;s also the fact that this is a new medium to find out what people think. spending valuable R&amp;E money will likely turn up exactly the same result, i.e. &#8220;some people are frustrated with CYFS and need to get it off their chest&#8221;.</p>
<p>just because this medium is unregulated (and possibly slightly unhinged in this instance), it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not something we need take cognizance of. in fact, the unregulated medium means we get to see what the man in the street thinks without the filters (or blinkers).</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://psnetwork.org.nz/blog/2007/01/26/hard-lessons-in-social-media/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Definitely, Che. There is a whiff of the &lt;acronym title="Mainstream media"&gt;MSM&lt;/acronym&gt; keen to sensationalise a medium they don't really understand, &lt;em&gt;pace&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,3885.sm#post3885" title="Hard News post on this issue" rel="nofollow"&gt;Russell's post&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The advantage of engagement is that people with grievances have a vehicle to express them. So immediately you have some steam let off because people are empowered by the fact that there is some way for them to vent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, because you are engaged in a &lt;em&gt;dialogue&lt;/em&gt;, hopefully built up over time, there is more of a shared understanding about both individual expectations and what an agency can realistically achieve.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely, Che. There is a whiff of the <acronym title="Mainstream media">MSM</acronym> keen to sensationalise a medium they don&#8217;t really understand, <em>pace</em> <a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,3885.sm#post3885" title="Hard News post on this issue" rel="nofollow">Russell&#8217;s post</a>.</p>
<p>The advantage of engagement is that people with grievances have a vehicle to express them. So immediately you have some steam let off because people are empowered by the fact that there is some way for them to vent.</p>
<p>Also, because you are engaged in a <em>dialogue</em>, hopefully built up over time, there is more of a shared understanding about both individual expectations and what an agency can realistically achieve.</p>
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		<title>By: Che Tibby</title>
		<link>http://psnetwork.org.nz/blog/2007/01/26/hard-lessons-in-social-media/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Che Tibby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something else that struck me is the amount of hysteria this website (it's not technically a 'blog' as such) generated relative to it content.

sure, publishing trenchant criticism online is a new phenomena, but how is it any worse than an expose by a major paper?

do you think that it's maybe the medium that's getting people over-excited? certainly newspapers have filters that prevent many mistakes and outright lies getting into the media, but if the recent content of the &lt;i&gt;NZ Herald&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;North and South&lt;/i&gt; are anything to go by then these filters aren't working so well.

so i reckon that you're right on the money with the need to engage these people. in the immortal words of Homer Simpson, it's a 'crisa-tunity'. if these geezers are annoyed enough to be putting their frustrations up on the web, then you have a clearly defined set of interests you can address.

this would suggest less 'waving of the arms' about content, and more finding out who these people are, and why they're so upset. just treat it like any other ministerial correspondence or letter to the editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something else that struck me is the amount of hysteria this website (it&#8217;s not technically a &#8216;blog&#8217; as such) generated relative to it content.</p>
<p>sure, publishing trenchant criticism online is a new phenomena, but how is it any worse than an expose by a major paper?</p>
<p>do you think that it&#8217;s maybe the medium that&#8217;s getting people over-excited? certainly newspapers have filters that prevent many mistakes and outright lies getting into the media, but if the recent content of the <i>NZ Herald</i> and <i>North and South</i> are anything to go by then these filters aren&#8217;t working so well.</p>
<p>so i reckon that you&#8217;re right on the money with the need to engage these people. in the immortal words of Homer Simpson, it&#8217;s a &#8216;crisa-tunity&#8217;. if these geezers are annoyed enough to be putting their frustrations up on the web, then you have a clearly defined set of interests you can address.</p>
<p>this would suggest less &#8216;waving of the arms&#8217; about content, and more finding out who these people are, and why they&#8217;re so upset. just treat it like any other ministerial correspondence or letter to the editor.</p>
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